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CyanogenMod and the Death of the Android ROM

— November 18, 2023 47 comments




Today we’ve got another special episode! Don’t worry, there will be another regular episode on Friday. In today’s episode David …

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47 Comments

  3. This episode hit all the nostalgia spots so accurately that I kept smiling all the way through!
    Oh and for the "wiping the device every nightly flash" – shout out to Micro SD for keeping all the important data on it!
    And who remembers flying through Recovery mode with the volume rocker and power button to select? 😁
    And lastly, Xiaomi's Rom was (still?) called MIUI that was SO different from stock Android, almost an iOS clone, with no app drawer, boxy icons and so on…

  7. Brings back great memories, I remember looking at the bottom of the XDA page once with a load of names and I thought wow this must be all the people online, then I realised it was all the people with birthdays today. Massively popular website. Great video 👍 I wanna buy an older phone and start flashing again 😂

  12. I've never owned an Android device so this was pretty new to me but I loved it. Thanks!

    I don't get the Starbucks joke near the end in relation to banking – is it a US thing?

  13. this brings back so much memories. I remember I first started rooting phones with my oneplus one. All the way up to oneplus 9 pro, then switched over to the pixel 7 pro and just couldnt be bothered anymore. Xposed modules was one of the main reasons I rooted, there were just so many cool things you could do. Especially the snapchat ones where you could write unlimited lines, change fonts, save snaps without people knowing, view snaps/stories without them knowing etc. Then you'd have to try to hide your root with magisk and bypass google's safetynet otherwise banking apps, android/google pay wouldnt work.

  14. This is probably my favourite episode in the waveform channel. Amazing investigative journalism David!!
    I remember the days of losing my whole text history every week when I would flash a new rom. Really brings me back. I’ve been on iOS since 2014 after there was a power drain bug in play services. But I still occasionally bring out my old android phones to relive the glory days of custom roms

  19. super nostalgic. reminds me when i got a OnePlus One purchase invite from someone in MKBHD's comments and installed OxygenOS for the first time

  22. This is the first episode i watch fully on YTB (normally im audio fan). I went back to ROM (LOS) after using miui apps on sweetin, my digital life got divided between google and xiaomi services, and i had to decide which one of the two will stay permanently, i didn't want to have two apps for the same task (e.g two note taking apps), sure i could just disable miui apps, but that can break the miui sometimes and xiaomi won't give latest android for sweetin, so i'm just using LOS for: less bloatware and, not so important, newer major android updates. buts there are more benefits from using ROMs in 2023.

  23. Yeha but Markass never talks about ROMs, Root, Gcam, privacy. 60% of the stuff he mentions during a review can be fixed with root and custom ROMs. Its very pretentious to ignore such a big fix.

  25. Wow what a throwback session… Man I remember LATE nights flashing roms that sometimes bricked/deaded my phone and then spending hours more trying to save my phone from doom!

    I also remember buying the ORIGINAL OnePlus One (truly a great deal and the TRUEST "flagship killer" ever at $299 & $349!) Having CyanogenMod and me thinking what a BIG DEAL that was…

    Wow the 2010s man… Great tech decade even tho smartphones kicked off with Apple changing the game in 2007…

    And lastly i DIDN'T know Steve transitioned! When "Stefanie" showed up i recognized the name and thought that's the guy's wife?

    Crazy world we live in indeed 🤙

  28. I still remember upgrading my HTC Wizard that ran Windows Mobile 5 all the way up to 6.5 and even giving it the then all new and flashy touch friendly interface. Of course the stylus still held reign back then. I was answering emails and looking up public transport info on the go. They had special light mobile websites back then and the national Dutch rail company was pretty early in the game with realtime platform numbers, departure times and delays. Keep in mind the iphone didn't exist yet and people thought I was crazy. "Why don't you just answer your emails at home?" was rather frequent question. Times have changed fast after that.

    Oh right. I ran my own Exchange server back in the day so i had all my emails, contacts and my calendar with me. Push mail was already a thing for me back then. We're twlking from as early as 2004 here.

    I skipped the iphone bandwagon all together. The first few models simply weren't as good and certainly lacked features I thought were important. I moved to Asia around that time also and wasn't really into big tech stories for a while. I jumped to Android in 2012 because of XDA and the openness of the OS. This is how the iphone never became a thing for me and why i still find it a rather boring platform. It's 90% marketing. Their marketing and not their tech is Apple's true masterpiece. I only wish I had learned about that kind of stuff in an earlier phase in life.

    Boy I feel old now. 😅

  39. This episode means sooo much to some (but probably very little to others). This is like a history channel feature with too many vivid memories of an era that witnessed a totally different level of involvement with our phones, filling of multiple knowledge gaps, and loads of nostalgia.
    Thank you WVFORM team!

  41. Interesting to watch! I only got into custom ROMS a couple years ago (after the apparent golden age of flashing), but mostly because of experimenting with privacy protection. I feel like most custom nowadays are focussing either on that (CalyxOS/GrapheneOS), or on breathing life into older devices (Lineage). Stepped out of it eventually due to security concerns (0day bugs) and convenience (as you guys mention, many apps simply don't work on custom ROMs or the FOSS alternatives are just tedious to use). It's a shame though, FOSS is such a cool concept that I wish more people would embrace.

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