Apple’s Older M1 Might be TOO Good




In this clip, Marques, Andrew, and David discuss the news that Apple is slowing production on M2 chips due to the new M2 …

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  1. Not a real observation, I'm on my 5 year old 2in1 ryzen zen2 even though zen4 SMOKES everything, including m2max

    The reason sales fell off is covid is over, like most laptops, those everyone bought 2 years ago are plenty good for 5 years

    The other reason, Apple got 5nm before anyone else, (that's the only reason M gave an illusion of performance, it wasn't arm, it wasn't apple pixie dust)

    It was better than x86 on antique lithography but only until x86 had lithography parity

    So Apple made a CPU with twice transistor counts as competitors, everyone said, "oh my, it must be arm, (it wasn't) and they went buying the new tech.

    Nobody but Apple eco systemers are getting an M when they can get a 13 gen or zen4

  2. I love seeing this video come up in my feed 2 months after release because I bought an M1 Air and it’s an absolute tank. I went from a 2013 15” MBP i7 QuadCore. Got me through music production and DJ gigging, but now I’m in another stratosphere. M1 was futureproofing so many people’s computing needs.

  3. I purchased the M1 back in 2020 with upgrades to the ram and SSD. I just recently picked up the M2 15" Air and honestly the performance difference is negligible, especially in day-to-day use. Apple created an amazing laptop but also cannibalized its M2 MacBook Air sales in the process, a loss for Apple but a win for us consumers.

  4. I got the M1 Macbook Air with 256gb and 8gb ram. It is starting to slow down on me due to the fact I did get the lower end version, but it lasted me for 2 years and I have used it for EVERYTHING I do. Now I want to get the mac studio and it will have to be the M2 due to Apple not selling the M1s if I am correct?

  5. while the significant performance leap of M1 can be a reason for its users to not upgrade, its reliability and longevity on the other hand, is doubtful.

  6. i still question why didnt they just kept the old design of the macbook air for the m2 version, updated the webcam and added magsafe, with the same price as m1, and redesigned the 13 inch macbook pro with the same design as the m2 macbook air but with 1 fan instead lol, would look like a better lineup

  7. I only wish software companies and developers make decent software and utilities that actually take advantage of the unparallel power of modern Apple ships in general…yea I talking to you AUTODESK!

  8. Last year I bought a fully maxed out MBP 16” M1 Max 64GB 8TB… that was a really expensive purchase for me, but the M1 Max is so powerful that this MBP could finally replace both my old Intel MBP and my Intel iMac 27” I used for music production. I bought with the purpose to keep it for at least 6 years (if not more). I’m using a LOT of plugins, sample libraries, it literally takes me months to do a full reinstall from scratch, so I hate to change computers. I want them to last as long as possible (that’s also why I don’t update OS to make sure my system will keep running as it always did). I know the M2 Max is more powerful, more memory, faster, etc… and so will be the M3, M4, M5… but I don’t care because the M1 Max is powerful enough to do everything I needed in Music… and it’s even so good that I now finally started to make some video montage too…. All that in a perfect silence. It was a big jump in performance when I got the M1 Max and I’m pretty sure it will also be another jump when I will get a new M6 Max/Ultra MBP 5+ years from now…

  9. 0:360:41 Only that you don't say why it was a quantum leap. The same way you don't say why M2 is not much better than M1.

    Yeah,
    going from last generation Intel Macs that were using Intel's 14nm (aka 50 million transistors per square mm2), to M1 that were using TSMC's 5nm node(aka about 170 million transistors per mm2) , would create the impression of a quantum leap. In that "quantum" leap Apple promoters were giving too much credit to Apple's hardware and software emgineers for obvious reasons.

    On the other hand going from M1 to M2(TSMC's 5nm performance node which does not differ substantially than the first version ) created the impression that Apple engineers underperfromed, while in reality they performed admirably producing chips about 15% faster while practically on the same process.

    But since the objective is to praise Apple , no matter what, every success or failure is attributed to them.
    Which is of course considerably far from the truth.

  10. I kind of don’t understand why you make that comment about the M2 air being good for basic things like email. Because of passive cooling? I teach data science and have an M2 air. Not everyone is rendering video like YouTubers. Or am I misunderstanding your point?

  11. thumbs down, zero data in this discussion. people have always held on to macbooks for several years. i've been holding out for the 3nm M3 pro.

  12. does a 15' macbook air M1 exist? i don't see it on apple's website. i feel like the new m2 is worth it over the older m1 just for the screen size difference

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