Jaron Lanier: Virtual Reality, Social Media & the Future of Humans and AI | Lex Fridman Podcast #218

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   1:39 – What is reality?
   5:52 – Turing machines
   7:10 – Simulating our universe
   13:25 – Video games and other immersive experiences
   17:12 – Death and consciousness
   25:43 – Designing human-centric AI
   27:17 – Empathy with robots
   31:09 – Social media incentives
   43:29 – Data dignity
   51:01 – Jack Dorsey and Twitter
   1:02:46 – Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies
   1:07:26 – Government overreach and freedom
   1:17:41 – GitHub and TikTok
   1:19:51 – The Autodidactic Universe
   1:24:42 – Humans and the mystery of music
   1:30:53 – Defining moments
   1:41:39 – Mortality
   1:43:31 – The meaning of life

2. Oooooh brother you brought Elder Scrolls UP in THIS interview?? Oh mannn…!

3. In an empty society of trends and all important peer review money is the only answer money is the only hope self awareness is useless unless you enjoy fueling depression

4. What’s wrong with perpetual annoyance is the government or politics the perpetual annoyance or will it be perpetualy annoying without government because the former regularly invades your freedom restricts your rights to defend yourself and can encroach on your property and privacy or is it the latter that people are so annoying they need to be held down and supressed by government or politics otherwise we will never be able to progress due to our incessant nuisance maybe it’s because I’m dumb but I don’t understand how that fit in the conversation

5. So far, the best!!! Honestly, the first podcast that I listened to every word, from beginning to end. Great job, Lex.

6. Is lex on heroin or something?

7. He may be one of the most sagacious people I've encountered on Youtube. A deep, systems thinker. Thanks for sharing this!

8. "Lessons don't come easily, and a world that avoids hard lessons will be a stupid world" Phew!

9. For me I have a hard time listening to people who aren’t smart enough to take care of there health

10. Great guest and a good human being. I truly believe that a good path lies between your opinions and sight.

11. Not deep in the blood vessel! Correct that.

12. This is.a genious artist that just happened to make a living arround computers

13. why does this guy think he has life and all this stuff figured out when he cant even wash his hair???

14. "I have grown fond of being a human" Affirmation that in the grand scheme of consciousness evolution (with side effects of SpaceX, languages, coffee drink, etc.) being part of the human race is not bad. 29 October 2021, #AGI_training

15. Excellent conversation. I was most impressed with Lex Fridman and his questions and his compassionate listening.

16. Yo I love how Lex, you go for a counter like "I think we can make technology that is capable of creating empathy towrds humanity" and then Jaron's response is "yeah, like musical instruments are a great example" Yo the solutions are here and they're lo-if!!! We're artistic apes. Learn an instrument. Join a community band. Your life will improve. Ur jam on Beethoven was lovely 🙂

17. OG VR is 3-5g psilocybin. Prove me wrong.

18. I would love to know his thoughts on the recent whistleblower news.

19. Interesting interview, but his views on Bitcoin are not that well developed. I would love to see a discussion between him and Robert Breedlove or Michael Salyor

20. Am I the only one seeing how incompetent and annoying this interviewer is? Just let the brilliant man speak without you interfering with your childish monotonous blabbings. The whole atmosphere is just off, funeral like, opposite of Lanier' s energy

21. Jaron is the truthful and genuine example of what people who think they are smart sound like in their heads. What a delightful, sincere person. I loved every second of this interview.

22. Fantastic discussion, thank you both!!

23. This stuff is freaking brilliant. It's a lot to digest

24. Bravo Lex. I really appreciate your preface to the interview where you describe your interview philiospy. I strive to reach those points. Great job.

25. People already have control over their 'algorithms'. The idea of an algorithm is automation. Its giving you what it thinks you want, without physically hacking your brain. But if you don't want it, then simply move on with your life. Humans are not mindless drones or fish gulping for oxygen after being caught. Put down the phone. Turn off the the computer. And walk outside.

26. you can not optimize for healthy conversation because twitter is not a conversation. it's a megaphone with an army behind each one. individual worth is measured by likes.

    real conversation already exists like discord. the complaint then would be reach, or you end up building an echo chamber because of banning users or self selection of who gets to be in what club.

    jaron is a genius. there's a big disillusionment of what is tech. it's not that you can't have a conversation on twitter, it's that you should recognize it's just a conversation with a megaphone and a crowd of likes and possibly hecklers.

27. Great conversation. Jaron is the coolest.

28. He and I.

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