BITCOIN vs GOLD vs REAL ESTATE? Programmer explains

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1. Ivan, been following you since you had the background with the plant : ) You're a legend! If you're in London, would be great to connect you with some local influencers and media ventures.

   PS: As always, another very informative video. Was hoping to see a theme like this

2. Ivan, when it comes to market cycles and over-extended markets you are so wrong when you say ''no-one knew'' these markets were going to crash. The US property market and many others around the world were screaming sells before 2008 (didn't you watch the Big Short). I sold out of my property portfolio in the UK from 2004 – 2007. Roger Bottle of Capital Economics gave a lecture way back in August 2001 warning of a global collapse, he stressed that it was coming, but couldn't pin down the timing. The next one is on the cards & is on the way! When you travel the world it's easy to pick up small signs just observing and talking to locals, it really is fascinating what can be learned along the way.

3. Informative!

4. Remember, someone could try random words and with the first try get into your crypto wallet.

   Saying that bitcoin wallets cannot be "hacked" into makes no sense. In the future it will be very likely that bitcoin addresses will be hacked, it's just a matter of time. By 2025 computers will be as "fast" as a human mind, and by then we will see more and more hacked/guessed private keys.

5. Ivan, do you consider Ark being a shit coin?
   Also, would be nice with a rundown of the E-Krona that the Swedish Central Bank soon will start implementing.

6. Everything will crash in capitalize world, the only question we don't know is when.

7. What specific things do you, or any of you, see that need to happen for projects like DigixDAO to increase liquidity and actual distribution of storage/custody of metals?
   I use distribution here in the sense of geographic and jurisdictional distribution of the storage and legal custody itself. But also another relevant question beyond that is distribution in the sense of supply chain and delivery service upon user request. What is the actual cost and value of distributed storage of tokenized gold and the option for physical delivery?

   And then you can play around with various stablecoin payment options and collateralization methods and more liquidity and easier physical (and 1:1 digital) settling of pairings like BTC/GOLD.

   (My personal bias: DGX > GLD)

8. The main staking (PoS) chain I think of right now is PIVX because it has been around for a little bit now, seems to have good fundamentals, a solid team and website, it's a fork of DASH and therefore a masternode coin as well, and has zerocoin technology, they're also working on a decentralized, anonymous exchange. As far as masternode coins go, DASH and PIVX are the only ones I would feel comfortable seriously talking to people about at the moment. Horizen (ZenCash) has an interesting node model although they don't technically call it masternode and it's a fork of Zclassic. (Horizen is PoW btw for anyone not familiar, although that's another coin that I have similar interest in as PIVX.)
   Not trying to shill, I only ever try to communicate my honest interest out of craving for other perspectives.

9. After holding on for more than a week, bitcoin has further dropped below $3,400 on its probable decline towards $3,000 which may or may not happen. The fact remains that following the trends and even videos from experts on youtube and other media, predictions are mostly 2 ways, with no specifics on the direction. The only constant thing i can say for sure is that the traders are actually earning good returns while hodlers keep having sleepless nights over what the future holds for bitcoin or if there is even a future at all. With the insight, skills and experience of a trader like Mr Samuel Garcia, the sky is the limit. I came to this realization when i made return on investment of over 300% in my first month using his signals for my trades. I have not seen strategies as specific as his or signals that accurate. His contacts details is Samuel Garcia(samuelgarcia1481@gmailcom) and you can always ask whatever you may want to know about consistently making profit as a beginner or advanced trader. A rule of thumb is, never get emotional with your coins as the eventual goal if we are truthful to ourselves is to make profit.

10. It will bottom around August…buy then when ETH is 50$

11. Hi Ivan, just a quick question, can you suggest save and reliable VPN service? Or if you have a video in regards this would be grateful if you send me the link. Many thanks

12. Cardano is on track with staking as well. So I really don't agree with staking shit coins.

13. Nice explanation mate. Good job!

14. LTC halving is due Summer 2019! Then Bitcoin 2020! The 500 per cent increase in LTC in the run up to 2015 mining reward halving enabled people to take profits and transfer them to Bitcoin! This helped pump the Bitcoin price (which increased by 40 per cent) and helped end the bear market!

15. Sounds like BTC is more valuable than gold….but you can’t live in a BTC!

16. Dude have you checked out uptrennd?? would love to see your videos on there man and here your thoughts on it also!
    Thanks mate keep up the great content!!

17. a daily decline in quality. bullish sign, youtubers are fading

18. Ivan… gold (moust of it around 90% ) in the ground near the core, and in the deep ocean.

19. First Such Great Words for Explained these Assets ….But as your point display in Video …..Store of Value + Payment Transfer System (BTC) Will be Rock !…………………

20. Buy silver coins, PPT, FOOD & THETA crypto tokens!

21. Dear Ivan,
    I have to disagree with you on the point about gold regarding its 'inflated! price caused by speculation outside of gold's practical use (in electronics, jewelry etc.). Doesn't literally every asset/item (salable good) share this characteristic? – just consider, that businesses are not selling their product for the manufacturing costs… there is always marginal revenue, since perfectly competitive firms don't exist, which then means, that they are valuing their product higher than it should be (their evaluation is internal in this case).
    In case of fiat money, the value of the bank notes should equal to fancy paper's value? …if we apply the same logic. And the same goes with Bitcoin, as there is no such thing as "uninflated price", in other words; BTC doesn't have a set price outside of speculation. Or do you think that the value of Bitcoin after mass global adoption would be equal to the mining costs? And by value speculation I mean the broad group of people coming to consensus on a set price.
    TLDR: every price is about speculation, therefore "inflated" price is not relative.
    (4:30)

22. I totally agree, one should have all of this and stocks as well. But I don’t think Bitcoin is a good option when you have a real crisis with let’s say no electricity and mobile data/internet. This is reality in many regions today. You still can use gold.

23. Bitcoin would not exist if there were no metals. All of the metals and its properties have made it possible for the Bitcoin network to propagate. The physical infrastructure of the Bitcoin network is one aspect that gives it intrinsic value. Essentially, Bitcoin is a derivative of gold.

24. "crypto is cheap" haha. Relative to the previous pump. This logic. Geeez. You should study bubble mechanics.

25. And what about nuclear fusion?
    Golds value would go instant to zero …
    And it works still today. It is just to expensive at the moment.

26. Thoughtful, objective views. Thanks!

27. Really nailed it Ivan… Diversification is key in investment… Both within crypto and outside crypto… Bec all of these assets have diff risk return trade off and one needs to always have some contingency available

28. While these comparisons are fun and interesting, they are essentially nonsense. BTC, Gold and Real Estate are vastly different investment assets. They are fundamentally different and should not be compared and certainly not substituted. Depending on your needs and goals, all three assets are valid. Great show Ivan 🙂

29. For as long as these 3 are around they will always be compared against each other! Great video man!

30. Whichever asset not touched by manipulation or politics is probably best.

31. XRP has come with the aim to revolutionize transfers and put banks out of business and theoretically, the purpose could be achieved in a few years to come but what if not? What if SWIFT lunches a counter product of its own? What if Government regulations tomorrow makes things difficult for XRP? What if the company Ripples is taken out? What if its just a hype after all? I know the believers of xrp are very much convinced about the future of the coin and are even further convinced by influencers on youtube but i can assure you hodling your savings in xrp could be very risky in the future. I am also a lover of the decentralization idea and i totally love XRP and have made an enormous amount of xrp some of which i plunge continually into my real estate business and hodl some. The amazing thing is i didn't get there by buying but grew by trading 50,000 XRP and 4 BTC with Mark Garcia's trade patterns and signals in a very minimal time. I advice you to hodl all you want but do not accumulate with your hard earned savings but by starting decent and trading to increase your portfolio like i did. I'd also recommend Mark Garcia if you need some guidance and assistance on picking up with this strategy. You can contact him on Gmail/Skype(markg5122@gmail. com)

32. Firstly you gotta wait for the housing market bubble to pop. Investing now is not very wise

33. This is the best thing that have ever happened to me this trading pattern of yours Mr Rodriguez Jeff it is unique thank you I wish to invest more and more thank Sir.

34. That's it. We DON'T know how much gold is stacked.
    I have a friend that worked in the diamond market in Switzerland.
    He told me. 3 or 4 people has almost all the diamonds in the world stocked. The price will fall almost to zilch if they free that stock.
    Gold is the same Ponzi, because gold doesn't degrade with time. So, for me silver is the real treasure. It degrade, has more industrial uses and is more scarce.

35. can we make a combination of
    governance,job,value together

    say a coin pooping from nothing(mining) by sharing the data of hugging each other.
    a hug coin ?

36. What about keeping the same 21M but changing from 100M sats/BTC to 100B sats/BTC !? I know that this is in fact possible, with consensus too!

37. My God this was not a good take on the issue. Bitcoin is going to become an ideal speculative asset.

    Text Aunt Bitcoin is successful it's going to draw off all of the speculative gains and all of these other speculative assets like housing and gold… It may even create 50 years of no return in other assets.

    Also the tiny house movement and 3D printing a house in a day this is all technology and movements that are going to disrupt society..

    In fact changes and zoning laws we'll probably have some of the biggest effects on the housing market…

    but also consider mgtow as more and more men refuse to form families or have children.

    Also the millennials have already stopped buying houses and getting married because of the massive student loan debt they can't get out of.

    The only thing that is worse than investing a billion dollars into some industrial real estate is to find out you can't make other investments with that money… The opportunity cost are nearly zero with Bitcoin because you can move in and out

38. when it comes to real estate, I feel like it should be pointed out, buying house to live in, it's not an investment, it's an expense. buying a house to rent out, a hotel, an office space for rent, those are investments. cause even if their value goes down, and you can't sell them for as much as you paid them, they can still keep giving out monthly return. When it comes to your home, not only do you get no return, but you also have to fix everything that goes wrong, broken fridge, burst pipe, all just taking money from you. obviously normal people can't buy a house to rent while renting themselves, obviously you're gonna, if you can, buy something to live in first, but people should get this straight. best buy two small apartments, one to live in, one to rent. the rented one will pay for it self, and you'll only have to pay out the one you live in. and you should pay it as fast as you can, cause it's cheaper that way. basically

39. As much as I agree with you about most of the things you've said, I have to admit that you have surprised me – and it was not a pleasant surprise. You've used a term shitcoins for all of the coins that use POS, which include EOS, Cardano, DASH, NEO, Tezos … You say that all of them are shitcoins? Why is that?
    After all – if you think that POW is the only viable consensus mechanism – then you must admit that Ethereum is going in a wrong direction. By the way – it's easier to switch over to POW from POS than it is in the opposite direction.

40. Great

41. what u just said.. i have been saying and doing publicly on FB.
    And now i have a lot of apartments… that works for me 😉
    Crypto is a great tool
    Pay ur taxes
    Never sell crypto ur CC
    Per2Per only

    Crypto is for building more wealth.
    Crypto isn't here to free anyone.. its here to chain us all if possible. Make u think fiat is bad & coins are good, #CONTROL ur ass.

    Am using crypto as a tool to make more money. But crypto without money, is a human on chains.
    And if u sell BTC or other cryptos to ur credit card.. u will lose all ur money.
    Selling 1000 dollars isn't the same as selling crypto for 10.000 dollars. They'll freeze it n take it from u.
    And u can't do SHIT about it.. they'll tell u, dirty btc or dirty money or show me the receipt of the buy.. all sorts of weird shit just for selling btc to CC. Trust no one but ur self in this nasty world driven by rich people who are afraid of those who are not rich. They'll fight anyone who try to clime..