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  1. You know that Toyota is the one that fun Tesla to start up and from 2010 when they did that they're making a battery call solid state battery You know that they have that I'm saying the same thing like you I don't know why they have such a short range when they known to be a long-range car well I guess they're waiting on the solid state battery

  2. Toyota is the only smart company left haha ,the wider world still prefers hybrids 😅 electric cars are not even close to being ready.and not even close to be affordable in the wider world

  3. The worst things about this car are consumption (drivetrain and aero) and charging speed. Especially bad in cold winter weather. Sub-par charging speed combined with sub-par range is not a great combination. For this price you can get much better cars.

  4. Toyota has lost its mind. Its retired CEO seemed to be senile or corrupt IMO, and the new CEO is sticking to the same dumb plan. They're still pushing for hydrogen, which is a non-starter for cars, but beloved by the oil and gas industry. (He recently unveilved a new engine that burns hydrogen.) They're using the Apple playbook. You can buy an EV, but we'll hamstring it so it doesn't go very far and takes forever to charge.

  9. I applaud Toyota for sticking to their guns and doing the bare minimum for the EV market. Their hybrid system is great and this is the path we should have adopted first while we continued to make the EV battery system more efficient. For every 1 EV Toyota wasted resources on they could have built 6 plug in hybrids or (according to their internal documents) 90 regular hybrid systems. Instead our world works in extremes where you enjoy gas guzzlers or EVs but most would have enjoyed a Ford Maverick or RAV4 Plug in.

  15. Toyota has thrown a lot of R&D into solid state batteries with plans to bring into production in the next few years. This is a “me too” product before the “hold my beer” moment

  18. I actually really enjoyed driving the Toyota BZ4x. I think the review is a little hard on the vehicle. Granted, the range is pretty bad but I think future iterations will be better! Still appreciate the thorough review.

  20. I got to test drive one of these a few months ago and yeah, it's just a decent car. It would be my commuter car that I probably only need to charge at home once or twice a week. The exterior is so-so for me, I'm not a fan of the big contrast panels yet (which I feel was Subaru's contribution here) and maybe because it was a test drive I didn't quite get the time to set up the driver area how I liked (the steering wheel was a bit too far in my lap) but I could take or leave this one. I'm putting it maybe a bit below the ID.4 and "we'll see" on how it stacks up to the Equinox EV as the kind of EV a person who would feel comfortable making the switch to EV on the mechanicals but wants something that feels familiar to their old car and less like a go-cart with an iPad on the dashboard.

  22. Toyota is the only company ive seen that actually understands what a sustainable future looks like. We are obsessed with electric cars which are inherently flawed while toyota actually considers creative energy sources.

  26. Unless you take regular road trips (which only a very tiny percent of the population does) for either work or pleasure, and you have level 2 charging at home, then 230 miles is plenty for most people so I wouldn't really worry about that. For most urban/suburban dwellers who go to a grocery store or similar, usually within 3 miles, go to work (if you're not remote) within 15 miles, and similar trips around where you live, then with 230 miles of range you'll probably only need to charge once a week, or at worst every 4 or 5 days. I know that 'range anxiety' is a thing, but if you actually calculate how much driving you do per week, at least 95% of the year, I think you'll find this is plenty of range for almost everyone. For that once or twice a year road trip, you might want a different vehicle if you don't want to deal with long charging times at public chargers. However, most people who own an EV have the means to own more than one car and often that second car is a gas or hybrid vehicle. There really is no problem here and this seems more like a made of problem based on a data point which hardly will ever come into play.

  28. I work from home so I ended up selling my 2011 Murano, but I sometimes need a car for family needs. Would not mind this car, or even the MX-30 with their limited range. Only if they were to cost 25k CAD. Not at the current prices LOL

  31. I'm convinced Toyota's not putting any R&D into EVs because the manufacturing process still defeats the purpose of non-fossil fueled vehicles. They still believe in Hydrogen tech and they're trying to make it cost effective.

  32. Toyota just doesn't get EVs, or why people like them, or that they are the future. Maybe they know they can't compete with Tesla and will just double down on ISDN, I mean LaserDisc, I mean…hybrids…until they're forced to make actual EVs. The BZ4X isn't even named like Toyota is trying.

    Hybrids don't even compare to EVs. I would never buy a Hybrid or ICE vehicle. For me it's all Tesla, nothing else.

  34. EVs are the future. In the present, there is no reason why any car should be gas only anymore. Why wouldn't you just double your MPG with cars that essentially self charge? I think they can comfortably start phasing out gas only cars for hybrids. The pure EV future is not ready for prime time yet. Range, charge speed, infrastructure (charging stations) on the road, charging at home, there is a long way to go still. Not everyone has a garage!

  37. Toyota knows what they're doing. The charging infrastructure isn't built out enough to make EVs viable at scale. Hybrids are the perfect bridge and may be so for the foreseeable future.

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