The claim that this car can fly confirmed to me it's not real. Even if we suspended disbelief and imagined that somehow the cars can hold enough propellent to propel the car off the ground it will never be legal.
In true Tesla fashion it will underdeliver in performance, be way behind schedule, and completely overshoot it's price point
I kind of decided a few years ago that anyone defending Tesla’s ridiculous promises was no longer trustworthy about anything. I say that as a long time Tesla owner.
How many Roadsters does Tesla owe to customers on the referral program? If it’s a few hundred then Tesla might kill it just to save money.
Yeah, it's never coming out how he said it would. Cold gas thrusters on a car to take off is a completely insane idea. The car will have a sub 300 mile range, will have an acceleration below 2 seconss but above 1, will cost $250,000 to $300,000, no full self driving, and thats it.
Elon thinks he is making the next LFA, whos gonna tell him?
One of the biggest reason why the roaster has been delayed is the chef engineer who designed the new roaster left to work for Ford. It was a huge setback.
The Top Thrill Dragster roller coaster at Cedar Point does 0-60 in 1.2 seconds. Lots of people, including myself, have experienced that. I can’t imagine being in a car that could even match that acceleration.
The Caterham Project-V is the most interesting Electric sports car coming out. It’s doing what I wish other BEV makers would do, make a light weight simple electric vehicle. It’ll have a short range and no practicality but should charge quickly and go fast. This Tesla just sounds unnecessarily complicated and like it’s going away from the heart of what a sports car should be.
Of course it'll come out, they would have a big problem if they didn't
Technically, the Cold gas thrusters are still moving the car with electricity, since the compressor is powered by the battery power.
7:27 when it comes to 0-60 it’s about traction, not really horse power, you could give a car 6000hp, it’s not gonna be under a second
Tesla will never release a roadster. Musky is too busy with his twitter and meeting with fellow con-man Traitor-Trump and Saudi princes to worry about Tesla.
Electric cars are stupid and nothing about them is cool.
it can be done with solid state battery
This episode begs for an @EngineeringExplained collab
People are paying over $150,000 for Z06 Corvettes as fast as they can make them, so there probably IS a market for a "real" 1.5 second 0-60 Roadster with a useable range at $200k. There are several new battery techs (not in production at Tesla, but elsewhere) that could power such a car to at least a 400+ mile range. Is there a Board of Directors corporate will to put such a halo car into limited production right now, instead of a $25,000 Model 2 that could sell in the millions of units profitably? Probably not; Tesla is a publicly traded corporation now, not Elon's private toy company any more.
Why is anyone suprised it isn’t out, Musk has always over promised and underdelivered (and just straight out lied.)
The weight of the battery alone……….
No way this smaller car is getting this range unless the battery size doubles.
Will Marcus ever get his free Telsa
It’s obviously easier to land a car than a rocket and the spaceX tech for landing rockets is incredible. When I saw Elon’s tweet that said this is gonna be the coolest tech demo ever, I just imagined them yeeting the car off a roof and it just uses the cold thrusters to re-orient and land itself on the stage. Now that would be cool.
It’s hilarious listening to people who have 0 engineering knowledge or training discuss things they have no idea on
Imo it is one of the sexiest roadster designs ever. The lines are perfect.
aint no way people still giving that man their money lol.
Easy. No.
Tesla 0-60 in negative 1s
When you have thrusters, you have free acceleration. Its not reliant on the grip of the wheels at all. The grip only matters when you're trying to provide acceleration through the tires, which thrusters bypass entirely.
I think the main driver behind Elon and Tesla’s renewed interest in the Roadster is the release of BYD's Yangwang U9. Without BYD coming out with the U9 so quick I have no doubt in my mind Tesla would have completely dropped the Roadster.
Just a few thoughts:
Price: 250k founders, 300k new orders, after (or during) event
Presentation: December 2024
Production: December 2025 delivery event for first 10 customers, like CT event, "mass" production starts 2026, ends 2029
Amount: 6942
0-60: 1.9s ish (base)
1/4 Mile: 8.8s ish (base)
Top Speed: 250+ mph
Max power: 1.1 MW
Weight: 1997 kg = 4403 lbs (base, more with upgrades)
Battery: Probably not 200 kWh but more like 120-130 kWh with an option to upgrade by losing the back seats or SpaceX package
Range: 400 miles (621 with optional upgrade or new replacement battery after 2027)
Thrusters: Probably angled slightly so the air not only pushes the car forward but also down, for more grip, making use of the ground effect would also be an option, by sucking the car to the ground, maybe a mix of both, would need to be able to switch from pushing to sucking, torque vectoring and hovering may be possible, car might be able to hover for several seconds, fly over canyons, rivers etc. by speeding up and then hovering or "jumping" over, possibilities are wild
SpaceX package: Not street legal, racing license might be required to drive, improves 0-60 from 1.9 ish to .9 ish, 1/4 mile from 8.8 to 7.2 ish, top speed from 250+ to 270+, price 50k+, everything mentioned above
Tesla Roadster 2?
nice one
Just a correction, cold gas thrusters are compresed nitrogen and the rocket that reorients itself is called Starship which uses a set of 4 flaps to change it from horizontal to vertical
Roadster is most likely coming out 2026-2027, yet everyone is giving Rivian crap for their R2 R3 release dates. Roadster will be 8 years late by then
Elon, layoff the freakin ketamine dude.
people who will never accomplished a thing in their lives criticizing those who change the whole world. crazy
RIP to the people put down a deposit
The issue with a sub 1 Second 0-60 time at a Drag Strip is that Drag Strips have rules. A car with that engineering ability would need a BUNCH of safety equipment for a Drag Strip, so… even then, it can't be used?
It's Elmo. Of course he'll just be talking out of his ass. If he opens his mouth, assume he's lying.
Your g force calculation ignores the standard 1 foot of rollout distance given to 0-60 times. Its extremely important as you get faster. The model S plaid with a 1.99s time gets up to 6mph in the first 1 foot of travel before the clock starts. Plaid really goes 6-60mph in 1.99s
You guys have no idea how smart Tesla engineers are. You havent even considered some mindblowing details of the spaceX package.
1) an ultra high pressure tank is in and of itself extra energy storage. – if you fully charge the car and fully conpress the tank before driving you could get significantly more watts of power from the integrated system. You dont need 200kwh of energy in the battery alone.
2) when the air tank is depressurized it will absorb massive amounts of heat that can be pulled from battery and motor thermals.
3) gas can be directed tangent to the roadsters velocity to corner extremely hard
4) extra strength regen brakeing can go directly to the aircompressor instead of battery when necessary
The whole "if they would have invested the $ in tesla stock instead" hypothetical is incredibly stupid. You could say the same thing about every burrito you bought in 2015 "That burrito coat you 300$ if you had invested instead!"
The whole "if they would have invested the $ in tesla stock instead" hypothetical is incredibly stupid. You could say the same thing about every burrito you bought in 2015 "That burrito cost you 300$ if you had invested instead!"
Dont be the fool that says roadster will never come out. People said that for years about cybertruck.
A cool feature would be to somehow charge the compressed tanks from braking the car. Basically the inertual energy ofthe cars to stop will push air into the tanks abd charge the thrusters. It should be possible in theory. Even to push a slight amount of air inside it due to being high pressure would make that feasible. This would limit the possibility to use the thrusters very often but would not require charging anymore. And would use the kindetic energy lost when stopping the car either way. Instead of charging the batteries.
One off PROTOTYPES vs becoming a mass produced serialized production model.
"The Rimac weighs more than the Plaid"
"Yes but it's a 2 million dollar car."
NO! It's a 2-seater instead of a 5-seater and costs 20 times as much. It shpukd weigh SIGNIFICANTLY LESS YOU TOOLS.
Elon probably studies the Rimac Nevera throughout lonely nights thinking ''man i wish that was me''
The claim that this car can fly confirmed to me it's not real. Even if we suspended disbelief and imagined that somehow the cars can hold enough propellent to propel the car off the ground it will never be legal.
In true Tesla fashion it will underdeliver in performance, be way behind schedule, and completely overshoot it's price point
I kind of decided a few years ago that anyone defending Tesla’s ridiculous promises was no longer trustworthy about anything. I say that as a long time Tesla owner.
How many Roadsters does Tesla owe to customers on the referral program? If it’s a few hundred then Tesla might kill it just to save money.
Yeah, it's never coming out how he said it would. Cold gas thrusters on a car to take off is a completely insane idea. The car will have a sub 300 mile range, will have an acceleration below 2 seconss but above 1, will cost $250,000 to $300,000, no full self driving, and thats it.
Elon thinks he is making the next LFA, whos gonna tell him?
One of the biggest reason why the roaster has been delayed is the chef engineer who designed the new roaster left to work for Ford. It was a huge setback.
The Top Thrill Dragster roller coaster at Cedar Point does 0-60 in 1.2 seconds. Lots of people, including myself, have experienced that. I can’t imagine being in a car that could even match that acceleration.
The Caterham Project-V is the most interesting Electric sports car coming out. It’s doing what I wish other BEV makers would do, make a light weight simple electric vehicle. It’ll have a short range and no practicality but should charge quickly and go fast. This Tesla just sounds unnecessarily complicated and like it’s going away from the heart of what a sports car should be.
Of course it'll come out, they would have a big problem if they didn't
Technically, the Cold gas thrusters are still moving the car with electricity, since the compressor is powered by the battery power.
7:27 when it comes to 0-60 it’s about traction, not really horse power, you could give a car 6000hp, it’s not gonna be under a second
Tesla will never release a roadster. Musky is too busy with his twitter and meeting with fellow con-man Traitor-Trump and Saudi princes to worry about Tesla.
Electric cars are stupid and nothing about them is cool.
it can be done with solid state battery
This episode begs for an @EngineeringExplained collab
People are paying over $150,000 for Z06 Corvettes as fast as they can make them, so there probably IS a market for a "real" 1.5 second 0-60 Roadster with a useable range at $200k. There are several new battery techs (not in production at Tesla, but elsewhere) that could power such a car to at least a 400+ mile range. Is there a Board of Directors corporate will to put such a halo car into limited production right now, instead of a $25,000 Model 2 that could sell in the millions of units profitably? Probably not; Tesla is a publicly traded corporation now, not Elon's private toy company any more.
Why is anyone suprised it isn’t out, Musk has always over promised and underdelivered (and just straight out lied.)
The weight of the battery alone……….
No way this smaller car is getting this range unless the battery size doubles.
Will Marcus ever get his free Telsa
It’s obviously easier to land a car than a rocket and the spaceX tech for landing rockets is incredible. When I saw Elon’s tweet that said this is gonna be the coolest tech demo ever, I just imagined them yeeting the car off a roof and it just uses the cold thrusters to re-orient and land itself on the stage. Now that would be cool.
It’s hilarious listening to people who have 0 engineering knowledge or training discuss things they have no idea on


Imo it is one of the sexiest roadster designs ever. The lines are perfect.
aint no way people still giving that man their money lol.
Easy. No.
Tesla 0-60 in negative 1s
When you have thrusters, you have free acceleration. Its not reliant on the grip of the wheels at all. The grip only matters when you're trying to provide acceleration through the tires, which thrusters bypass entirely.
I think the main driver behind Elon and Tesla’s renewed interest in the Roadster is the release of BYD's Yangwang U9. Without BYD coming out with the U9 so quick I have no doubt in my mind Tesla would have completely dropped the Roadster.
Just a few thoughts:
Price: 250k founders, 300k new orders, after (or during) event
Presentation: December 2024
Production: December 2025 delivery event for first 10 customers, like CT event, "mass" production starts 2026, ends 2029
Amount: 6942
0-60: 1.9s ish (base)
1/4 Mile: 8.8s ish (base)
Top Speed: 250+ mph
Max power: 1.1 MW
Weight: 1997 kg = 4403 lbs (base, more with upgrades)
Battery: Probably not 200 kWh but more like 120-130 kWh with an option to upgrade by losing the back seats or SpaceX package
Range: 400 miles (621 with optional upgrade or new replacement battery after 2027)
Thrusters: Probably angled slightly so the air not only pushes the car forward but also down, for more grip, making use of the ground effect would also be an option, by sucking the car to the ground, maybe a mix of both, would need to be able to switch from pushing to sucking, torque vectoring and hovering may be possible, car might be able to hover for several seconds, fly over canyons, rivers etc. by speeding up and then hovering or "jumping" over, possibilities are wild
SpaceX package: Not street legal, racing license might be required to drive, improves 0-60 from 1.9 ish to .9 ish, 1/4 mile from 8.8 to 7.2 ish, top speed from 250+ to 270+, price 50k+, everything mentioned above
Tesla Roadster 2?
nice one
Just a correction, cold gas thrusters are compresed nitrogen and the rocket that reorients itself is called Starship which uses a set of 4 flaps to change it from horizontal to vertical
Roadster is most likely coming out 2026-2027, yet everyone is giving Rivian crap for their R2 R3 release dates. Roadster will be 8 years late by then
Elon, layoff the freakin ketamine dude.
people who will never accomplished a thing in their lives criticizing those who change the whole world. crazy
RIP to the people put down a deposit


The issue with a sub 1 Second 0-60 time at a Drag Strip is that Drag Strips have rules. A car with that engineering ability would need a BUNCH of safety equipment for a Drag Strip, so… even then, it can't be used?
It's Elmo. Of course he'll just be talking out of his ass. If he opens his mouth, assume he's lying.
Your g force calculation ignores the standard 1 foot of rollout distance given to 0-60 times. Its extremely important as you get faster.
The model S plaid with a 1.99s time gets up to 6mph in the first 1 foot of travel before the clock starts.
Plaid really goes 6-60mph in 1.99s
You guys have no idea how smart Tesla engineers are.
You havent even considered some mindblowing details of the spaceX package.
1) an ultra high pressure tank is in and of itself extra energy storage. – if you fully charge the car and fully conpress the tank before driving you could get significantly more watts of power from the integrated system. You dont need 200kwh of energy in the battery alone.
2) when the air tank is depressurized it will absorb massive amounts of heat that can be pulled from battery and motor thermals.
3) gas can be directed tangent to the roadsters velocity to corner extremely hard
4) extra strength regen brakeing can go directly to the aircompressor instead of battery when necessary
The whole "if they would have invested the $ in tesla stock instead" hypothetical is incredibly stupid.
You could say the same thing about every burrito you bought in 2015
"That burrito coat you 300$ if you had invested instead!"
The whole "if they would have invested the $ in tesla stock instead" hypothetical is incredibly stupid.
You could say the same thing about every burrito you bought in 2015
"That burrito cost you 300$ if you had invested instead!"
Dont be the fool that says roadster will never come out. People said that for years about cybertruck.
A cool feature would be to somehow charge the compressed tanks from braking the car. Basically the inertual energy ofthe cars to stop will push air into the tanks abd charge the thrusters. It should be possible in theory. Even to push a slight amount of air inside it due to being high pressure would make that feasible. This would limit the possibility to use the thrusters very often but would not require charging anymore. And would use the kindetic energy lost when stopping the car either way. Instead of charging the batteries.
One off PROTOTYPES vs becoming a mass produced serialized production model.
"The Rimac weighs more than the Plaid"
"Yes but it's a 2 million dollar car."
NO! It's a 2-seater instead of a 5-seater and costs 20 times as much. It shpukd weigh SIGNIFICANTLY LESS YOU TOOLS.
Elon probably studies the Rimac Nevera throughout lonely nights thinking ''man i wish that was me''